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 More options Sep 20 2006, 2:09 am
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From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:09:38 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 20 2006 2:09 am
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

"John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote in message
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then perhaps we should start bio-soliding dog and cat crap.  yum.

i'm not a farmer, but i come from a long line of them.   here it is:

first rule: never fertilize w/ the poopy of any meat-eating animal.
second rule: always allow the poopy from vegetation-eating
animals to compost before using it.


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 More options Sep 20 2006, 3:46 am
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From: "Dave Bugg" <davebu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:46:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> exactly.   that still doesn't mean it's okay to spread any form of
> human waste
> on crops.

<pheeew> Right over your head. Clue: suppositions and what ifs aint science,
bubba.
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From: "Dave Bugg" <davebu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:50:42 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 20 2006 3:50 am
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

Nothing.

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From: "Dave Bugg" <davebu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:54:11 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 20 2006 3:54 am
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> vegetable compost cannot give you e. coli.

And neither can biosolids.

> i don't want my food
> fertilized with any form of human waste.

Then don't shop at a store to get your food, 'cause every state has farms
using biosolids as part of their soil amendments.

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 More options Sep 20 2006, 12:50 pm
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From: Bob Ward <bobw...@email.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:50:39 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 20 2006 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:12:12 GMT, Peter A <pait...@CRAPnc.rr.com>
wrote:

>In article <7OednQAanO4nj5LYnZ2dnUVZ_qGdn...@comcast.com>,
>rjy...@comcast.net says...
>> > I have seen liquified human waste spread on feed corn fields in
>> > Wisconsin. Now, there's an industry for ya.

>> You've seen it?  You can tell it's human by sight?  (laugh)
>> Now that's a skill.

>> nancy (just busting your chops)

>Maybe the taste of the corn gives it away <g>.

It's the second time through that makes the difference.

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 More options Sep 21 2006, 5:07 am
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From: "-bwg" <barry.g...@gmail.com>
Date: 20 Sep 2006 11:07:26 -0700
Local: Thurs, Sep 21 2006 5:07 am
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

Dave Bugg wrote:
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

> > the waste is somehow processed/treated at the "poopy plant" (i'd
> > guess to kill off
> > all the bacteria?) and then sold as sludge, which may not be
> > considered human
> > waste at that point.

> Just to be clear:
> Raw sewage is untreated human waste entering the waste treatment plant
> Sludge is the material left over after the treatment process
> Biosolids is what is left after further treating and processing sludge.
> Biosolids are what are used on agricultural fields in all 50 states. Sludge
> is not.

What happens to the sludge?

Curious minds...
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From: "Dave Bugg" <davebu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:40:55 -0700
Local: Thurs, Sep 21 2006 6:40 am
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

-bwg wrote:
> What happens to the sludge?

For waste treatment plants that don't further process the sludge into
biosolid material, they will either dump them into landfills or send it off
for incineration.

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 More options Sep 25 2006, 2:46 pm
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From: Rob <weneedpro...@yahooNOJUNK.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:46:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> "howe" <h...@ltga.com> wrote in message
> news:el2ng2111ataio6ii7h91p32b7322as6mm@4ax.com...
>> New York Times
>> September 16, 2006

>> Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness
>> By MARIAN BURROS
> snip

> you are aware that we use human waste sludge to fertilize crops in this
> country, right?

Yes, I hear thats what they do with all the sewer sludge from the plants
  that treat human waste. Or they use to. Is this still correct do you know?

Do they still use human waste to grow "organic" crops?

Rob


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 More options Sep 25 2006, 2:51 pm
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From: Rob <weneedpro...@yahooNOJUNK.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:51:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

The above would be hard to do now. From what I understand, anamals, such
as cows, and chickens that are suppose to eat a veg based diet, are
being fed meat by-products, and processeed fecal matter as a way to
boost the protein on the food.

I wonder if all that can cause problems like we are starting to see now?

Rob


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 More options Sep 25 2006, 2:53 pm
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From: Rob <weneedpro...@yahooNOJUNK.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:53:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness

Ah, that answers a question I had about it. Thanks for clearing that up,
Dave.

Rob


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 More options Sep 25 2006, 5:02 pm
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:02:08 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 25 2006 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: Produce Is Growing Source of Food Illness
Well then, EAT SHIT and DIE !!!!!

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:51:18 -0400, Rob <weneedpro...@yahooNOJUNK.com>
wrote:


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