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William George Ferguson  
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 More options Aug 27, 3:46 pm
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From: William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@newsguy.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:46:49 -0700
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Subject: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
Actually, I can understand where the kessle is coming from.  Vassals in a
monarchy are always somewhat nervous until the succession is secured.

Matchkessle, Matchkessle, make me a match.

--
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain.
(Bene Gesserit)


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David DeLaney  
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From: d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:25:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Actually, I can understand where the kessle is coming from.  Vassals in a
>monarchy are always somewhat nervous until the succession is secured.

So the vessels of the kessle will be nervous, so secure us?

>Matchkessle, Matchkessle, make me a match.

That works too I guess.

Dave "traDItiooooon!" DeLaney
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Bengt Larsson  
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 More options Aug 28, 3:27 am
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From: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:27:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Actually, I can understand where the kessle is coming from.  Vassals in a
>monarchy are always somewhat nervous until the succession is secured.

>Matchkessle, Matchkessle, make me a match.

I think the Castle did very well today. "A boyfriend. A sweetheart. A
swain. A lover. An intended consort. A fiancée. ... A _stud_.

First the polite chat stuff, then down to basics. Crass but loving.


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Bengt Larsson  
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 More options Aug 28, 3:43 am
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From: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:43:12 +0200
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008

I wrote:
>I think the Castle did very well today. "A boyfriend. A sweetheart. A
>swain. A lover. An intended consort. A fiancée. ... A _stud_.

Even better:

>I think the Castle did very well today. "A boyfriend. A sweetheart. A
>swain. A beau. A lover. An intended consort. A fiancée. ... A _stud_."

Better rhythm.

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Quadibloc  
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 More options Aug 28, 7:48 am
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From: Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
On Aug 27, 10:43 am, Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
quoted, in part:

> An intended consort.

When I saw that in the post, I thought it was a typo, but I see it was
on the page like that.

Presumably, this is an error, which the Foglios will correct to "An
intended. A consort."

I also had to re-read the page to realize that Dagon Heterodyne was
not the woman on the left-hand side of the panel, but rather the man
on the right-hand side of the panel - whose interest had been piqued
by the warrior homunculi sent by the Skull-Queen of Kraal, the woman
on the left-hand side. So Dagon Heterodyne was not one of the few
previous female Heterodyne heirs, having the Skull-Queen of Kraal as
another of her titles.

Skull-Queen?

Could Agatha and Bangalesh Dupree actually be *relatives*?

Or, at least, could Bangalesh Dupree have inherited - or won - the
mantle of one of Agatha's ancestors?

John Savard


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Bengt Larsson  
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 More options Aug 28, 9:13 am
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From: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:13:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008

Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>On Aug 27, 10:43 am, Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
>quoted, in part:
>> An intended consort.

>When I saw that in the post, I thought it was a typo, but I see it was
>on the page like that.

>Presumably, this is an error, which the Foglios will correct to "An
>intended. A consort."

I don't see what you mean. An intended consort is someone the ruling
queen intends to be her consort.

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Wayne Throop  
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 More options Aug 28, 9:45 am
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From: thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:45:14 GMT
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
:: Presumably, this is an error, which the Foglios will correct to "An
:: intended.  A consort."

: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
: I don't see what you mean.  An intended consort is someone the ruling
: queen intends to be her consort.

Yes, but the appeal of the "it was an error" theory is that all the
other terms are single words, and "intended" is a synonym for "fiancee".
It does read a bit better if the kessle was playing thesarus, yielding
a list of single-word terms.

On the other hand, even if it's an error, it doesn't seem all that
likely they'll fix it online.  After all, they fixed the "fertility/love"
thing in Zeetha's speech in the printed version, but never bothered
to update the online version (if I'm remembering that thread rightly).

Wayne Throop   thro...@sheol.org   http://sheol.org/throopw


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Bengt Larsson  
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 More options Aug 28, 10:30 am
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From: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:30:24 +0200
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008

thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
>:: Presumably, this is an error, which the Foglios will correct to "An
>:: intended.  A consort."

>: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
>: I don't see what you mean.  An intended consort is someone the ruling
>: queen intends to be her consort.

>Yes, but the appeal of the "it was an error" theory is that all the
>other terms are single words, and "intended" is a synonym for "fiancee".
>It does read a bit better if the kessle was playing thesarus, yielding
>a list of single-word terms.

But this is a very clever castle, that plays with subtle meanings. Why
would it suddenly play one-word thesaurus?

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Wayne Throop  
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 More options Aug 28, 10:45 am
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From: thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:45:32 GMT
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
: Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
: But this is a very clever castle, that plays with subtle meanings. Why
: would it suddenly play one-word thesaurus?

Because it's funny?  Plus, by that interpretation, it was important to
say "intended consort" instead of "intended" or "consort" for reasons of
suble nuances of meaning.  Yet the other words in the list range in their
interpretation all over the spectrum. from "fiancee" to "stud".

Plus too also, I get the impression, not of nuanced wordplay, but
ham-handed slapstick, from this castle segment.  And indeed, most castle
segments we've encountered.  True, backed up by playing semantic games,
but not really subtle.  Or, subtle only in the sense that a large stone
falling on your head is subtle.

Wayne Throop   thro...@sheol.org   http://sheol.org/throopw


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Wayne Throop  
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 More options Aug 28, 10:59 am
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From: thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:59:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
: thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop)
: Or, subtle only in the sense that a large stone
: falling on your head is subtle.

Hm.  Or possibly, as Conrad Nomikos said, "Greek subtlety"
rather than "Chinese subtlety" (iirc... maybe he said "inscrutability",
or "oriental"?  Hm, don't have it to check).  Ie, exemplified by
the riddle of the Kalikanzaros, "feathers or lead?".

Wayne Throop   thro...@sheol.org   http://sheol.org/throopw


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Quadibloc  
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 More options Aug 28, 12:09 pm
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:09:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
On Aug 27, 4:13 pm, Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom> wrote:

> I don't see what you mean. An intended consort is someone the ruling
> queen intends to be her consort.

The phrase "intended consort" is not commonly encountered. As
individual words, however, the first, although a dialect form, is
highly familiar to most Americans through a popular television show
(The Beverly Hillbillies), and the second is common and frequent as
well.

John Savard


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cartykhan  
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 More options Aug 28, 1:13 pm
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:13:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008
On Aug 27, 6:13 pm, Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom> wrote:

> Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On Aug 27, 10:43 am, Bengt Larsson <bengtl8....@telia.NOSPAMcom>
> >quoted, in part:
> >> An intended consort.

> >When I saw that in the post, I thought it was a typo, but I see it was
> >on the page like that.

> >Presumably, this is an error, which the Foglios will correct to "An
> >intended. A consort."

> I don't see what you mean. An intended consort is someone the ruling
> queen intends to be her consort.

Forget it, he's rolling.

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:32:15 GMT
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Subject: Re: Girl Genius - 8/27/2008