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JWard6971  
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 More options Aug 27, 5:47 am
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From: "JWard6971" <u45776@uwe>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:47:30 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 27 2008 5:47 am
Subject: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
I'm a confused mom at the moment.

A year ago, my then 5 year old child had his eyes tested (by a clinical
ophthalmologist who I feel did a thorough exam) and I was told he was
borderline for needing glasses, but if he wasn't manifesting any problems
then we should just recheck in a year because he might outgrow and be fine.
No particular problems were noticed, although he has never really been
interested in the "school work" portion of his Kindergarten program and is a
part of the Title I program to help him with the needed pre-reading/reading
skills.  

He was rechecked this week (same doc), now age 6, and the problem was
explained in a bit more depth as latent hyperopia.  His pre-"eye drops" sight
had a correction of +.25/+.37, so he is correcting well.  With the drops, he
would need a +3.25 in both eyes - the same as last year.  The eye doctor is
basically telling me it is our choice at this point with glasses and whether
or not we think he needs them.  Again, apparently this is right on the fence.
(?)  He will get rechecked again in a year - or sooner if we request it.

The doc gave me the script, but said we could 'wait and see' how he does.  It
was our call.  He said if we get them, he wouldn't need to wear them all the
time so he could still work on adjusting himself if he is going to outgrow it.
I don't want him to use them if he will then never be able to out grown it,
but if it would help him with school work, I'm all for it.  He doesn't seem
to care one way or another about getting them.  

I am have no idea what to do.  He doesn't complain of problems, but at his
age (and personality) he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm concerned it may be
difficult to tell with him if he is having a problem.  I don't know if his
pre-reading/reading skills are related to eye sight at all, or just a lag in
learning/personality (his temperament is strong willed to say the least).
Getting him to do any kind of seat work to observe his behavior is
challenging anyway.

So - what is common practice for this?  What will happen if he does use
glasses (even part time) - will he ever have the chance to outgrow the latent
hyperopia?  Is it even likely he will outgrow it with the +3.25?  Any
information on how to handle this or what to "watch for" will be appreciated..
.I just have no idea what the best course of action is with my little guy.

Thank you in advance.

Confused Mommy Janice :)


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Mike Tyner  
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 More options Aug 27, 8:19 am
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From: "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:19:32 -0500
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)

> So - what is common practice for this?

There is NO long-term benefit in avoiding the glasses. No harm will be done
by wearing them.

A conscientious doctor would recommend glasses if there were symptoms
(headaches, avoiding close work) or objective findings like esotropia or
reduced stereo vision. Since they did not recommend glasses outright, we
assume there were no such findings.

Some doctors would be appalled at NOT recommending glasses in this case. But
in the absence of symptoms or objective findings, there's no compelling
reason to make him wear glasses. Hyperopia is the normal condition for young
people and they have enormous reserves for coping with it.

As age and the quantity of near work increases, he might tolerate the
hyperopia without symptoms until his third decade. Or he may need glasses
for symptoms that crop up. Or he may be one of the 25% of (caucasians?) who
start turning nearsighted about age 10, and that would reverse the
condition.

What you do now is not likely to influence any of these outcomes.

Suggestion - get him a "cool" pair of drugstore +2.00 glasses and see if he
likes to wear them when he reads. (The +3.25 was measured in artificial
conditions and "full" correction is not always used.)

-MT, OD


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Dr. Leukoma  
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 More options Aug 28, 11:25 pm
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:25:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
On Aug 26, 1:47 pm, "JWard6971" <u45776@uwe> wrote:

Janice,

I strongly recommend that you do a literature search on hyperopia.
Jerome Rosner of the University of Houston College of Optometry has
published many studies showing the strong correlation between
uncorrected moderate hyperopia and poor academic achievement.  Even
the official Clinical Practice Guidelines of the American Optometric
Association includes "aversion to reading" as a symptom of hyperopia.
If it were me, I would weigh the risk (?) of wearing a spectacle
correction with the possibility of a lifetime of academic
difficulties.  If it were me, I would also get a second opinion from a
pediatric optometrist.  Please bear in mind that there is huge
disagreement among professionals concerning when and how much plus to
prescribe a young hyperope, especially when neither amblyopia or
strabismus are present.


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 More options Aug 29, 6:58 am
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From: "JWard6971 via MedKB.com" <u45776@uwe>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:58:15 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 6:58 am
Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)

>Please bear in mind that there is huge
>disagreement among professionals concerning when and how much plus to
>prescribe a young hyperope, especially when neither amblyopia or
>strabismus are present.

I'm very grateful for the responses thus far.  I have been doing searching
and have encountered some of the literature in this category.  One question
that I have as a layperson is when the literature discusses the implications,
etc. for hyperopia, do those findings apply to a child like my son who was
diagnosed with latent hyperopia, and is - apparently - self-correcting at
this point?  I've read several items, but I am uncertain if the findings also
apply in the case of latent hyperopia.

At this point, we have informed his teachers (he starts 1st grade next week)
and if they sense any sign at all, we will immediately proceed with the
glasses.  In the meantime, I am continuing to try and figure this out and see
if I can feel more certain of what decision to make.

Additional advice and opinions is still welcome!

Thank you,
Janice

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 More options Aug 29, 10:54 am
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From: Neil Brooks <neil0...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
What part of the world are you in, Janice -- if you don't mind
saying??

I'm a layperson, but a high hyperope who's learned a thing or two
along his 4+ decades of being in the patient's side of the chair.

I think you should get your son evaluated by the best pediatric
strabismus opthalmologist that you can -- much as Dr. Leukoma
recommends.

I know a name or two, in a couple of parts of the country.  Others on
this forum may know additional eye docs.

In a painfully obvious fashion, I think this could go one of two ways:
he could be fine for years and years -- even decades -- and then need
glasses ... or....

The "or" is that his eyes (and the neurologic components of vision)
could be overtaxed by all of the accommodation that he'll surely need
to use, to get through school and life.  This could cause eye-turn
(strabismus), double vision, accommodative difficulties, etc., etc.

Trust me when I say ... you don't want the "or."

A thorough exam by a truly excellent pediatric ophthalmologist will
help to understand if there are ANY deficits or problems with his
accommodative or binocular function that COULD make all of that
accommodation problematic.

Along with you and his teachers watching for any and all the usual
symptoms of vision trouble, I'd probably have him checked by a good OD
or ophthalmologist more frequently than the standard annual visit.
As with so many things, early intervention offers the best possible
outcome.

Neil


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Mike Tyner  
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 More options Aug 29, 12:01 pm
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From: "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:01:44 -0500
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
"Latent" means real hyperopia. It's latent because it's hidden. It's hidden
because he compensates for it by accommodating, exerting constant effort to
focus. Compensating is very easy in the young, very hard by age 40-50.

Kids do not usually grow out of hyperopia, except as I mentioned, some
percentage will experience genetic nearsightedness starting around age 9-12.
Generally, the rest get gradually worse.

In kids, the hyperopia measured after cycloplegic drops ("wet" refraction)
stays pretty stable or increases gradually. Between ages 30-60 it's more
likely to increase than decrease.

From an early age, the hyperopia we measure _without_ drops always increases
gradually to match the refraction _with_ cycloplegic drops. That's
consistent with the decrease in accommodation that causes most people to
have near problems at 40.

Most farsighted people have been that way all their lives. Often they didn't
"need" glasses til they started school, or college, etc.

If your son has symptoms, there's no question. A cycloplegic refraction of
+3.25 justifies glasses unless a kid is behaviorally and academically
"normal."

If there's any question of reading difficulty, avoiding near work, headaches
with close work then those are symptoms deserving treatment.

Does he color, read, write, use a computer, gameboy or psp? Does he resist
or avoid any of these?

Again, glasses will not do any harm. The cycloplegic refraction is not
likely to increase just because you get him glasses. If the "dry" refraction
seems to increase, it's just because they get used to exerting less effort.

-MT, OD

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Neil Brooks  
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 More options Aug 29, 1:21 pm
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
On Aug 28, 6:15 pm, otisbr...@embarqmail.com wrote:

> It would help her to understand the difference between "latent"
> and "regular" correctly.

Generally speaking, Janice, it would help you to ignore /anything/
Otis Brown posts.

Trust me.


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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
On Aug 28, 3:58 pm, "JWard6971 via MedKB.com" <u45776@uwe> wrote:

can I ask why you wouldn't simply try to introduce the idea of using
readers to your child and just observe for yourself their effect on
his attention span and willingness to engage in prolonged near work?

kids who are straining to see at near do not always clearly behave in
a predictable manner.  some may complain of headaches or eyestrain but
many just simple avoid near tasks and never complain about anything.
being a +3.25 hyperope (latent or not) is almost certainly a strain on
your son and using part-time reading glasses isn't that difficult or
scary.  if he were my child I wouldn't take the chance that
farsightedness might be slowing his academic development-- I would
just get him a cheap pair of readers and encourage him to use them and
see what happens.  why not?

and your question about the long-tern ramifications of being
hyperopic-- its pretty simple really.  when you are young you will use
reading glasses occasionally but when get older you will likely be
wearing glasses all the time.


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 More options Aug 29, 3:13 pm
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:13:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 29 2008 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
On Aug 28, 6:54 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Neil,

I specifically said "pediatric optometrist," not pediatric
ophthalmologist.  Of course, I would not object to a third opinion by
a pediatric ophthalmologist if strabismus was involved.


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 More options Aug 29, 3:14 pm
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:14:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)
Suppose it is true that corrective negative lenses to compensate for
myopia myopia does indeed lead to progressive myopia. (Don't jump on me
yet.) How could such putative knowledge  be used to cure hyperopia?

Suppose enough positive power is used to correct a young child's
hyperopia so that reading distance is moved in to be closer than typical
reading distance. That is, the far point is brought into where the
normal near point would be. Then I would expect that all the visual
behavior with such positive lenses would be pretty much the same as that
of a myope. Would that cause the eyeball to lengthen? I sure do not know.

Such technique is probably testable on animal models. Other strategies
might hold even more promise.

Bill


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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Latent Hyperopia - Child age 6 - glasses? (+3.25 script)

Bill,

If you put a +3 diopter on a primate, his refractive STATE will
simply "move more positive".

Click here watch the blue-tint model of the natural eye.

http://vision.berkeley.edu/wildsoet/myopiaprimer.html

So the effect on the primate eye is proven as fundamental science.

But for a child ...?

Science is clear.

Mose people are not.

Otis

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